Clay Green:

Early on in his life, he embraced an educational and adventurous lifestyle that included extremes like operating nuclear reactors on US Navy submarines, and the engineering and manufacturing meccas of Intel, literally building the technology we don't think about but is powering the ability to do this right now! Mastering those environments led to embracing other extremes as well!

Riding Snowboards and Sport Motorcycles, then training riders in both genres and coaching racers became passions for his life!

But something was still missing, he still struggled to accomplish ONE thing – Successfully building a business! Then, he hit a deer while riding his motorcycle (a tad bit above the speed limit) directly from the right side, just on the front wheel!

This wasn’t a ‘near-death’ experience – he remarkably didn’t even CRASH! This was a moment of clarity and performance!

After learning the reason, and how he didn’t crash, his focus shifted from trying to master the myriad of external “stuff”, to mastering the only environment that really matters – the mind!

The reason Clay didn’t crash was simple, as he puts it, “The way my brain was operating leveled me up to ‘superhuman performance’!”

Applying his 30 years of experience training adults, combined with his diverse set of experiences in military and corporate systems, overlaid with an entrepreneurial spirit, he now helps business owners and executives apply daily practices to safely enter and exit the state of flow and perform in ways they have only dreamed of!

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The Rise of Superman: Decoding the Science of Ultimate Human Performance

In this groundbreaking book, New York Times–bestselling author Steven Kotler decodes the mystery of ultimate human performance. Drawing on over a decade of research and first-hand reporting with dozens of top action and adventure sports athletes like big wave legend Laird Hamilton, big mountain snowboarder Jeremy Jones, and skateboarding pioneer Danny Way, Kotler explores the frontier science of “flow,” an optimal state of consciousness in which we perform and feel our best.

Building a bridge between the extreme and the mainstream, The Rise of Superman explains how these athletes are using flow to do the impossible and how we can use this information to radically accelerate performance in our own lives.

At its core, this is a book about profound possibility; about what is actually possible for our species; about where—if anywhere—our limits lie.


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Stealing Fire: How Silicon Valley, the Navy SEALs, and Maverick Scientists Are Revolutionizing the Way We Live and Work

It’s the biggest revolution you’ve never heard of, and it’s hiding in plain sight. Over the past decade, Silicon Valley executives like Eric Schmidt and Elon Musk, Special Operators like the Navy SEALs and the Green Berets, and maverick scientists like Sasha Shulgin and Amy Cuddy have turned everything we thought we knew about high performance upside down. Instead of grit, better habits, or 10,000 hours, these trailblazers have found a surprising short cut. They're harnessing rare and controversial states of consciousness to solve critical challenges and outperform the competition.

New York Times bestselling author Steven Kotler and high performance expert Jamie Wheal spent four years investigating the leading edges of this revolution—from the home of SEAL Team Six to the Googleplex, the Burning Man festival, Richard Branson’s Necker Island, Red Bull’s training center, Nike’s innovation team, and the United Nations’ Headquarters. And what they learned was stunning: In their own ways, with differing languages, techniques, and applications, every one of these groups has been quietly seeking the same thing: the boost in information and inspiration that altered states provide.

Today, this revolution is spreading to the mainstream, fueling a trillion dollar underground economy and forcing us to rethink how we can all lead richer, more productive, more satisfying lives. Driven by four accelerating forces—psychology, neurobiology, technology and pharmacology—we are gaining access to and insights about some of the most contested and misunderstood terrain in history. Stealing Fire is a provocative examination of what’s actually possible; a guidebook for anyone who wants to radically upgrade their life.


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Speaker 1: 00:00:05 Welcome to the social community and show where it's our go to help you learn, grow and transform into the person you want to become. Today I'm talking with Clay Green, a flow and performance coach. Early on in his life, he embrace an educational and adventurous lifestyle than included streams like operating nuclear reactors on us navy, submarines, and the engineering and manufacturing mechanism. Intel literally building a technology. We don't think about what is powering the ability to do this right now. Mastering those environments led to embracing other extremes as well. Writing snowboards and sport motorcycles. Then training writers in both genres and coaching. Racers became passionate for his life, but something was still missing. He still struggle to accomplish one thing successfully building a business. Then he hit a deer riding his motorcycle, Tad bit above the speed them is what he says directly from the right side, just on his front wheel.

Speaker 1: 00:00:57 This wasn't a near death experience. You're markably didn't even crash. And we've talked a lot about that story. Uh, but this was a moment of clarity and performance. After learning the reason and how he didn't crash, his focus shifted from trying to master the myriad of external stuff to mastering. The only environment that really matters is mine. You're mine are mine. The mine, the reason clay didn't crash was simple as he puts it. The way my brain was operating leveled me up to superhuman performance. Uh, applying his 30 years of experience training adults combining combined with his diverse set of experiences in military and corporate systems overlaid with entrepreneurial spirit. He now helps business owners and executives apply daily practices to safely enter and exit the state of flow and performance in ways they have only dreamed of. We get into a little bit of this. We been a lot of time on that story, which was really hot. What led him to where he is a, it really is a great insight into, in this state of flow. I know a lot of us who experienced it. We'll talk a little bit more about that, but without further ado, less up to clay. Clay, welcome to the social chameleon show advertisers. Have you, I'm so glad to connect with you. Uh, it's been amazing so far. Hearing your stories and getting to know a little bit more about you and what you're up to.

Speaker 2: 00:02:11 Thank you man. Thank you Tyson. It's been great. Getting to know you too. I've enjoyed the time we've had together has been fun.

Speaker 1: 00:02:17 Definitely. So what, what's been, what's keeping you busy these days? What's on your plate?

Speaker 2: 00:02:23 Ah, was keeping busy with what's on my plate. Um, as my business grows and as I grow into owning it or realizing how critical and how impactful this gift I've been given is this gift of understanding and being able to explain what I see and what I understand, if that makes sense. So, um, I'm loving, I'm loving being in Arizona. You and I are both in the Phoenix area. We got here about a month ago. Uh, Tara and I are traveling in an Rv. That in itself is a big one. Takes up your time, the RV lifestyle. Um, we're here in Phoenix to, to hang out in a couple of different events and meet a whole bunch of people, but we're just loving the desert and loving beautiful spring in the desert. And, um, but then there's the business and what do I do? I am basically helping people become much, much, much more productive than they ever thought they could be.

Speaker 2: 00:03:25 Much more, um, much more efficient with their time, get a lot more done in a given specific amount of time. Some people would call that peak performance. I don't like that because it feels like, um, you're going to have this one great game or this one great game or whatever, and then you're going to start going downhill. It's more of the lifestyle of, of sustained performance when it comes to this whole get it done and flow thing. So I'm organizing more mastermind training sessions and I'm managing my, uh, my, uh, my, uh, my masterminds, the alone what I call the alumni mastermind that has just this, that's basically what gets my attention these days. That's where I spend in most of my energy. And then of course, reaching out to a bad ass, bad ass is like you. And hanging out and meeting more people and expanding the network. That's fun. And I love it.

Speaker 1: 00:04:18 Yes. And the surprise about doing this show, uh, it is just amazing people I've been able to network and connect with and learn from. And it's selfish of me because I'm the one getting, I feel like you're getting all the, all the love here and all the learning. Uh, and then, but it's been so great to be able to share this and that's just been great. I'd like to get back to, um, a little, a little bit talking about this flow and all these different things you're talking about. But first I gotta ask the RV lifestyle, why, what's this about? What are some things that you thought would be great and it may be having or some things that you didn't expect that are just like what I never would have thought about these things.

Speaker 2: 00:04:55 You know, it's kind of funny. Um, why has some, has some layers to that story? Um, when 2008 hit, so we're talking a decade ago now and that crazy time flies. I started going through some stuff with my house about that time and I, I quit it. I quit my longtime career as a professional trainer and engineer at Intel making the computer chips. Like I was literally working in the Fab on the machines. I was managing teams and machines and maintenance and upkeep and repairs and all that on these machines that are actually making these computer chips that make all this possible. So I love that. I love that aspect. I've got this history where I can sit here and I can get so thankful for what's going on in my computer, your computer and all dozens or hundreds of other computers around the world making us. It's just insane what's actually happening when you start pulling it apart.

Speaker 2: 00:05:58 What's happening right now just so we can talk, nevermind record and nevermind broadcast just so we can, so anyway, I geek out on that. I'm sorry. The RV lifestyle. I quit my job and I got out of that industry. I didn't really get out of that industry. I quit working for the company that I was working for in that place and that caused some house stuff to start. Fast forward about seven, eight years. And I'd been through some house stuff and the market was getting to the right spot and I was in this relationship with Tara and we wanted this dream mobile lifestyle. I'd started my business and was and was at the point where I could eat that way, right? I can survive. Um, and so, um, we were like, well, we don't, we're living in, me and my girlfriend were living in a three bedroom, two and a half bath house and were, and we'd gotten to that point in our business where we would, we'd cut back and we were hungry or startup, bootstrapping, if you will.

Speaker 2: 00:06:58 And we realize I'm spending way more money. You know what I'm saying? Just to see the effectiveness of this big house and the lawn. I hate cutting grass, right? So what are we going to do? We're going to, okay, let's get out of the house. We're going to move into an apartment. Are we going to move? Where are we going to do and, and the story around getting into the RV and the type of art we chose and the truck and all those stories are awesome and great. Long story short, that's part of why, but then I do it. I move into the RV. Um, this is a green screen and I'm standing up in the garage section of a toy hauler just for everybody that knows the out there. Got The internet wired in here and right here behind this green screen is my motorcycle and I'm a motorcycle rider.

Speaker 2: 00:07:43 And if we get to it and we talk about flow enough, you might hear the story about me hitting the deer on a motorcycle. It was that motorcycle. Love this motorcycle, right? I love this motorcycle, right? So I want to, it goes back, I had been teaching newbies and we'd go to a coffee shop and this is actually how Tara and I met. Um, I met this coffee shop a lot and I'm doing these newbie rides, trying to let help newbies not die on these motorcycles. And, um, a couple people reached out to me after we moved into the RV and after we'd started on our journeys and they say, claim man, I remember sitting around that coffee shop in 2006 in 2007, 2005 and I remember you saying that it was your dream to travel around the country with your motorcycle riding the awesome roads around the country, exploring the country.

Speaker 2: 00:08:37 So I had actually forgotten about that dream, but yet there had manifested here it is. Yeah. As far as the headache goes, yeah. Uh, it's, there's, there's headaches. We've been in that, we've been doing this for 2.5 years now, this, this month, March 2.5 years. Wow. Um, and there's just challenges where, um, we're still finding broken things since, since for two, for two years, some of the tanks on our RV had been leaking. We've had them replaced and re-installed replaced. Reinstall. That's about to get fixed hopefully for the last time because the way we're doing it, it's different. You know, there's all kinds of weird challenges that we can talk about, but, but that's the point. It's a blessing, right? Yes.

Speaker 3: 00:09:25 Yeah, it really is. And how, how do you, how do you, you know, all these little things come up. I mean, there's, I got to imagine there's so many things you can expect and you're not prepared necessarily for how do you think about these things? How do you not flip out? How do you just not lose your shit? Like, and make it just ruin your whole day? Like what is the thought process? Like what's the, what's the procedure like? You know what I'm saying? Is it making sense?

Speaker 2: 00:09:47 I completely understand. And I have a photograph. I'm looking for a, I'm not ignoring you and I'm not scrolling on my phone. I have a picture that I want to share that, that exemplifies the answer to that question and how proud I am about it. So here, there's a story. We were in [inaudible] just outside Nashville, Tennessee. This was some time, eight, nine months ago, something like that. So there's one of the things we're not doing really good at documenting the journeys and the travels. And I, I kinda regret not being better at that, but time, right? Um, long story short, there had been some truck problems and we were told that the truck was ready, that we could come pick it up at, I think it was Thursday at 7:00 PM 6:00 PM something like that. When those shops getting rid of clothes will be done by then.

Speaker 2: 00:10:42 So we went to the rental car place and return the rental car and they gave us a ride over to the, to the Chevy dealership where the truck was. Because how this happened is a long story, but long story short, they said, you know what, we can't give you the car. So we quickly called the rental car place and they're going to send another car. We'll real quick while you're waiting on the car, do you want to come see the truck? It's going to be ready tomorrow. Don't worry because we've got to leave in 30 from that time it was about 36 hours that we had to be out of the Rv spot that we were in and we're talking about a fifth wheel or a fifth wheel. So the truck pulls the RV, et Cetera, et cetera. So they walk us, they walk us back into the shop and I walk in and this is what I see and I can send this picture. Yeah,

Speaker 3: 00:11:30 but we'll, we'll link to in the show notes. That is a completely disassembled truck, the engine and the tires on the ground for you on audio and the cab is in the air

Speaker 2: 00:11:42 and you can see the tailgate. The bed of the truck is on the is on the ground still as well. Wow. I walk in and they, it was supposed to be done, so I walked in and write. The answer to your question is Bam. My Gut just went, my throat tightened. I felt terror and fear just rip up my spine and the core, me and my head's, I felt my face flush. Right. You get hot. I just kind of felt it a little bit. I just, just, we live in it. I kind of stopped breathing for a second. Tyson. I'm proud of this one. It was less than 20 seconds. It might have been less than 15 before I was happy again. Wow. How did I do it? You asked me how I did it, right? Here's, here's my process. One awareness. I am aware something's not right.

Speaker 2: 00:12:44 My body is speaking to me. In this extreme example, it was a really huge contrast. I expected to come back here and see the hood up and a guy kind of been over tightening something thinking, oh, it'll be ready tomorrow. No, this thing is completely torn apart. They're talking about still replacing one of the heads. They, it was, it was crazy. It was crazy. Yeah. So my body, it was just this extreme example. So awareness. And when I say awareness, most of us, the way that I describe it is how does this show up in our lives? For Real, it's time for me to sit down and write an email. It's time for me to, you know what? It's time for me to go on a podcast interview. There's nerves, right? Um, I want to do this interview. There's reasons to do this interview from my business, from a people that I can help for all this stuff.

Speaker 2: 00:13:34 There's all these reasons and there's this goal. I have to complete this interview, but I'm nervous. Well, most of us aren't aware. We're nervous or stopped until we're like two bags of Doritos into a three hour Netflix binge. Right? Like, like we're like, oh crap, I'm not doing what I was going to be doing. Right? So this is an extreme example of I instantly was here versus, oh, there's a little twinge. So one of the things that I hope people do is become more and more aware of their bodies. I hope people understand what this little tickle in your throat means when like to them in that moment when they're getting ready to do whatever task it is they're doing, right? So the first thing you've got to do is become more and more aware because it's easier to overcome if all you're dealing with is a little tickle instead of a full on six foot thick concrete wall. Right? So awareness. Okay, I was very aware. The next thing I do is breathe. You have to breathe, right? So I, I took a breath in and I controlled it and let it come out nice and slow.

Speaker 2: 00:14:47 And then I'm, and then I'm able to say, okay, is there anything going to kill me? Am I, am I in physical danger? Because that's the purpose of this feeling. That's when it, that's what it, that's the core of the dinosaurs chasing us. Brontosauruses or saber tooth tigers or mastodons or whatever. That's the reason this oh shit feeling happens is deep down in here, you're going to die something in you think you're going to die. So the first thing I literally do is, is okay, I'm aware. I take a breath. I'm like imagining looking up at the truck in the air and then I look down at the engine, you know, and I was like, I, I remember being there and it was a breath.

Speaker 2: 00:15:32 Am I going to die? No. Okay, I'm not going to die. This isn't, this is a band that I'm going to tell you. The next step is the advanced level because you might have to spend days in this place reminding yourself that you're not going to buy before you actually, you're able to say, why am I grateful for this? Why am I grateful for this moment? Why am I grateful for right now? I went to to a couple things. I went to the fact that that originally the guy that broke my truck said he wasn't going to pay for it, but now thank goodness that $9,000 is coming from his insurance company instead of my bank. Wow. Yep. Check. You know what I'm saying? Okay. Yeah. I'm thankful for that. Yeah. I'm real thankful for that. Even if it takes forever and I'm supposed to be out of it and they're going to charge me and I've got to go hire a truck, I've got to go do all this stuff. If I don't get this fixed in time, okay, I, you know what? I can do that. I'm thankful that can happen. Right. And then, and then like I said, it was about 15 to 20 seconds, less than 15 I think 14 something like that. Really close to that where I was actually able to laugh and I was actually able to go, wow, this is a curve ball. I did not see this curve ball come and that curve ball broke. You know what I'm saying? It was a good one. I'm impressed with that curve ball.

Speaker 2: 00:16:59 That's my process to your question. I'm sorry.

Speaker 3: 00:17:04 No, that's good. I, I like, I like, I like to hear that because I would say most of us without these abilities are these, these prior trainings or thought losing your shit. Everybody on this panel. But like, yeah, I would've lost my shit too. And what was that going to solve? First of all, you have no control over what these guys are doing. And then now what are you, you're going to piss them off and guess what buddy? We were going to get done tomorrow. How about next week? All of these things that, you know, like I had the same thing the other day. I went to color propane. Um, and,

Speaker 3: 00:17:36 and then I was like, it was a little breasts. Six, six 30, the sun's still out here in Arizona. It doesn't, you know, maybe another 40 minutes for a set. I was like, your shoot, I can't imagine any reason you can't feel my propane. I go there and like, oh, sorry, we can't. And I was, and I was like, why? And they're like, oh, that's the rules. And I was like, I'm about to lose my shit because I really wanted to barbecue right now. And there's no reason. And it's like, okay, but to get to that point, to have that training and this, you know what? That's cool. I'll figure it out. I got chocolate at home and I could have made a whole big thing about it and maybe I would've gotten my way or whatever it is, but that's in solve anything. I'm going to look like the fool, you know? And that, that's amazing. I just love it. I love these. I love the stories.

Speaker 2: 00:18:23 I love the key thing that you're saying they're training. Yes. That's what I keyed in on because there's people, back in the day when I was teaching new motorcycle riders, I would literally have arguments with these experienced bad ass motorcycle riders. They're like, either you're, you're, you're made to ride a motorcycle or not. No, just let me know. Right? Anybody can learn to do anything. And that's what we're talking about. We're talking about training, we're talking about what are like I was, when I started my business, I was really, really, I was a trained nuclear reactor operator. I wasn't born to op like I wouldn't know what I'm saying. You can't be, you can't, you're not a born a nuclear reactor operator. I was not a born an Intel engineer. I was not born a business owner. You learn the skills, you learn these tactics. You learned that you, you're trained question is how long and how hard are you going to work to learn it? Yeah.

Speaker 3: 00:19:25 Yeah. And that in itself is the Hartford. Just to be able to push through and say, you know what? I'm not good yet. I'm going to get better at it. This, this wasn't the best example, but guess what? I learned a couple of things. I tried it for a second, I paused maybe a little bit, whatever it is. Like next time this comes up, I'm going to be better at it. I'm going to get less mad. I'm gonna get less aggravated. And over time you're going to build these skills and it takes a long time. I've been, I've been, I've been doing it for I want to say probably two years now because prior to that I'm like this is just the way it is and this is just how I am, whatever. There's no changing of whatever, whatever. It was my excuses where, and that's a learning like I can't control these things no matter how much I yell or scream or give you facts or figures or details or whatever it is, it's not going to matter. I can't control this. Me Being mad or whatever it is is definitely not going to help. And when I started learning that like then I can start to make progress and expect to stop, see, think a little bit. You calm down like you were saying a little bit and then your brain, it gets out of that fight or flight mode and you start to come up with solutions and ideas and different things and that skill is so hard but it's so valuable when you at least praxis.

Speaker 2: 00:20:32 The Fun one for me is the level that we're talking about right now or is pretty obvious as freak outs. You know, like a fender bender or a ticket or, or I don't know, you're getting evicted or I, you know, there's these themes, these, these, these trip out moments.

Speaker 2: 00:20:51 I want to urge everyone just like, I'm just going to drop this. Yeah. It has that crap. That's the big stuff. It's, it's in the ice in the awareness of the tiny little stuff where the differences made. Yeah. And as long as you're distracted by, dammit, the bears lost again, are the cubs lost or whatever. Right. As long as you're distracted by this bigger stuff that is being plastered or here's a good one, Trump never, nevermind. Twice. Right. I'm not even debating that. No, no. Just that's a trigger. Everybody, everybody listening to this right now just got triggered. Yes. Right. So, so god, he's good. So once you get past that and get into your personal life where it's like the tiny little stuff. Yeah. The, that you're looking at as far as what you are programmed to believe like you, you kind of alluded to it. That's, that's where I like to play. As you get in there and you start making huge differences in those intimate, personal relationships in your life with yourself and with your spouse, with your kids and your partners and your business partners and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. It makes

Speaker 3: 00:22:06 it makes life so much more pleasant. You're not mad at everything. Everything. Everybody's not out to get you. Every situation is in the horriblest thing. It's like there's traffic, what? Screaming, yelling. You're not what is going to happen. You, you can't control that. The jackass that cut you off, what are you going to do? Nothing. All these things that you're getting mad about, you're just stressing yourself out. You're, you're bringing the energy and so the next thing, the next people, you're coming home and you're giving that to your family and your kids and like, Oh shit, that's him. He's pissed about something. I don't know what, but here we go with this and, and you just, you start raising the next generation and you, you're going to work in the morning and it's like you're, you're pissed at Sally cause cause somebody cuts you off in her freeway because somebody got a flat tire. Like you know when you, when you get rid of all that, you just laugh and it's like, you know, I, I get, I, you know, I was sitting in traffic like good. I more time listening to a book or more time. This isn't a podcast. More time, more time to meditate, right. Whatever it is. Whatever you choose.

Speaker 2: 00:22:57 Yeah. Yeah. And then, yeah, go ahead. Go ahead. I'm sorry, go ahead. No, no, you got, well I just, I just, I said this, I got on the call with you. I say, I don't think I said this from the recording. I just got off a call with someone and I said this to them and I just want to say it right now because of the level of conversation we're having. And it's a belief I have and it's a statement that I think nails everything unless you are in a life and death situation.

Speaker 4: 00:23:25 Okay?

Speaker 2: 00:23:26 Like for Real, you're sliding down the road, you know, out of control on the ice and it's time to counter steer. Unless you're in that situation. The single most valuable thing that any of us can do at any given moment is become more self aware and work on our brain. Meditation is the way I say to do that. It's just there's nothing in yes, I meditate when I drive down the road. So I'm not talking about sitting with your legs crossed going home. Um, there's um, there's an infinite number of ways to meditate. Yeah. So yeah,

Speaker 3: 00:24:01 and especially from my experience with that is if when you can be in these crazy, wild, loud and you can just take that breath and just say one second here, let me, let me bring myself down. Let me center myself. You don't need this pristine environment to meditate. You, you can be able to take that skill and bring it anywhere you are and just be like, oh, I'm frustrated right now. Hold on a second. And you can just bring that back down. That is amazing. I love, I've been working, that's a new skill I'm trying to work on. Like I can do it in my room by myself and quiet, but when I'm frustrated in the moment are with somebody or something's not going my way to just be like, well, take a breath here, calm down, let the mind relax that, that isn't it.

Speaker 2: 00:24:41 Flex that, flex, that question, that muscle. Um, to remind yourself this, this is how it works for me is like, I was on a summary, right? So I've been in a couple of life and death situations in my life might be hitting the deer on the motorcycle. Like there's, there's, uh, you know, I could probably list off half a dozen times that I could have or should have, or maybe we're supposed to die, but that question really triggers me and triggers me in a good way. Like, like I'm aware of there's something going on. I'm scared of something. I'm angry about something. Any, um, I'm turned on, I've got a really good story about Starbucks and having meetings in Starbucks. Anytime I'm aware that I'm triggered about anything. Is there anything going to kill me right now? Right. Cause cause cause it can be real, which I hear this little quick story I would love to.

Speaker 2: 00:25:39 So, so, so, so this is the second RV resorts. This is around month eight or nine where we've actually had internet in our RV. So the vast majority of my business has been built with me in a Starbucks, having meetings, having one on one meetings, running group meetings and things like that in a Starbucks where I'm having a conversation when people myself, you know, to avoid the background noise when I'm not talking or whatever. But my clients kind of got to know me and when I'm in those one on one conversations, I'm like really zoned in right here with Tyson. Right? And we're having a conversation and there'll be talking, I'll be listening and I'm listening and I'm watching for the cues that tell me when we've actually uncovered the nugget that needs to come out right now. Right? Right. And all of a sudden they've gotten to know me and my reactions and so they'll, they'll stop talking.

Speaker 2: 00:26:33 The, the, this started to happen where they would, they would just be telling a story or talking about their mom or Emma, I'm making stuff up, whatever, right? They're talking about their business or whatever they're talking about. And then all of a sudden they just stop and they're like, what is it, clay? That was it. What is it? And I'm like, what do you mean, what are we, you know, I didn't stop you finish your story. Right. And I noticed that this had started happening and like what's going on? And what it was was there was a pretty woman that just walked in and Starbucks over here in my peripheral that I didn't, I didn't turn and look, but she was in my peripheral vision and I was zoned in on Tyson but is still in this peripheral and that pretty pretty body in a pretty hair with it.

Speaker 2: 00:27:19 Those pretty yoga pants on, I call it the Starbucks yoga pants problem. Right. That heard my switch, that hit my switch and it caused my eyes to react. It cause micro communications to happen in my face that, that my clients were picking up on once they got to know me. So this, this switch, this reactive thing that we're talking about and I wasn't aware of that. Right, right. I was ignorant of that until I became aware of it. And that's, yeah, that's why we, that's why I teach meditation more and more awareness. More and more awareness.

Speaker 3: 00:27:56 Yeah. There's, there's, there's so much to unpack with that. I would, I would like to switch a little bit here. I want to hear about the day you are riding down the highway on your motorcycle and and, and a little furry friend just jumped out in front of you. Can, can you take us back to that moment and tell us about that and how this all went down?

Speaker 2: 00:28:18 So I've mentioned that I teach flow, right? What I mean by the flow or by flow is there is a couple books. Haley chicks. Haley wrote a book in the nineties early nineties based on research he did from the seventies and eighties it's called flow. Okay. Steven Kotler is a new, a new, we're author and he's released several books. He's New York Times bestselling author. The guy is an author, he writes and he's really good at it. Good books like interesting engaging in treating books. And there's two key books and I'll mention them right now. One is the rise of Superman. Okay. The rise of Superman. The other one is stealing fire. Like I'm going to steal your fire. I'm stealing fire. Yeah. Great Book. Okay. So those books are kind of references in quick resources to understand what I'm talking about. When I say the state of flow, the state of flow is that non ordinary state, which, which we've all been in the zone.

Speaker 2: 00:29:21 So I teach people how to control their entry to the zone exit from the zone and our whole whole holistic approach to building a day or a week in the life of someone entering and exiting the zone on regular scheduled times so that you can perform at that level of in the zone, on any task you can get in and out of the zone or the state of flow. It's a, it's a biochemical, physical state of being in our bodies that, that we're talking about here, right? That in the last 15 years they've been able to identify it and they and identify exactly how your brain is working in all that stuff. Now the question that you asked about the deer. Yes. The reason this is so significant is because my history before the deer, I was an Alabama high school graduate, a Navy nuclear reactor operator, a navy nuclear reactor operator, chosen as a staff pickup instructor.

Speaker 2: 00:30:26 So I became a professional trainer, got out of the navy and I was a trainer for like Intel engineers, PhDs, double PhDs, Badass upper level managers, low level managers. I taught a lot of people about a specific type of machine that makes computer chips. That's one of the machines in the process. Very technical. Just like being a nuclear reactor operator, Intel engineer and teacher and trainer and all that stuff for 15 or so years, 20 years total in that industry. I'm very technical, very, very subatomic physics, very engineering, very by the book. Right. Uh, because the rules, because that's the rules. Um, other things that I found out during that time is I started snowboarding at one point and fell in love with that extreme sports. Then I found that little old motorcycle. Um, I fell in love with sport, bike, motorcycle riding. Okay. Um, I'm sure there's pictures out there.

Speaker 2: 00:31:31 I can get a picture too. You have me on a motorcycle on a track and all this other stuff. So what happened at one point I started teaching new motorcycle riders and what I was actually teaching them was how to survive. But how to not die on a motorcycle. But what they wanted to do was, I want to look go faster. I want to go, don't want to drag a knee. I want to, I want to be smoother. Right? I want to be better. Okay, we'll come, come learn to be better. Step one, don't die. So I was able to teach them how to, how to do that. I'd been doing that for about eight, 10 about 10 years. I think it was the way it, 10 years when this story happened. Okay. So I'm setting this up for a reason.

Speaker 2: 00:32:18 I learned that in order for me to understand how things work and be able to explain it and train it to people, I had to know at a very deep detail, like I can explain to you. I used to be able to explain using equations, how a motorcycle wrote rolls down the road using the vector Algebra, explaining the atomic reaction between the atoms of the rubber on the tire and the atoms of the asphalt on the road. Like I could go to that level. So I knew motorcycle, motorcycles and motorcycle riding. I knew the rules and the right ways and the wrong things to do, what to do when and how not to do it. I'd also learned a lot about business. I've been trying to build a business my entire adult life from the time I was 18, 19 I knew that I didn't belong in a job the longest I was ever in one position in any job was seven years.

Speaker 2: 00:33:16 And I think I had three different roles in that one job. It was crazy. Um, so I learned, I learned a lot when this dear incident happened. Then after the deer incident I found the rise of superman three days later. Hmm. So three days later I pop open this book that explained exactly what was going on in my brain and how it was working when this all happened. And that's what enabled me to translate that and this book and this knowledge into a 12 week course, which frankly everybody that goes through is like what the what the head like. They can't believe it. Um, okay. So the deer story, one more piece. I had been riding for about 10 or 15 years, the fastest I've ever seen. This motorcycle goal was 175 miles an hour. I was on a track. Okay. I was on a track closed circuit racetrack and at the time that I saw one 75, I was like, I'm good.

Speaker 2: 00:34:26 You know what I'm saying? So I, I have kept going and gotten faster, but I was like, you know what, I'm good. I could go fee. This is good, you know? Um, so what I'm about to share with you, okay, some of the other piece of it and I'm going through my head and make sure I got all the details out, make sure it's all qualified. Yes. What I'm a, what to describe was quote unquote illegal because I was speeding, but I was on an isolated country road. I knew the road. I'd been up and down that road many, many times. I've been on that road that day. Um, I was also riding alone, which is not the right thing to do. Uh, I was riding with a couple of the people and they went home one way and I was going home and the other way, so I was on the way home.

Speaker 2: 00:35:10 But you're still not supposed to ride alone, especially if you're riding like this. So, so, um, I was, well within the kit there's a, there's a, what we were talking about earlier is this moment, it's this, it's this, it's this moment in time that I call a survival reaction threshold. And we were talking about it with traffic or with my truck being jacked up in the air. Here I am operating and I'm holding my hand for those though, an audio, I'm my hand up and I've got a line here, this, this, this threshold. And then the vast majority of the time we operate down below that line somewhere and then anytime be exceed this survival reaction threshold, that's when the body reacts. That's when we hit that burning sensation, that grip and we start to panic or we, we get scared and we ask ourselves and that that's my trigger to say, wait, am I going to die?

Speaker 2: 00:36:05 Take a breath. Because that soothes it and then, okay, am I going to die? No, keep breathing. Okay, everything's cool. Why am I grateful for this? My point with all of that conversation was I am at this point in my life on that motorcycle. In that point in time, I was operating way below this survival reaction threshold and I knew that. Here's an example, I was coming out of it and this is getting into the nitty gritty of the story. I'm coming out of a turn going around a lefthand turn and you know how people lean off the motorcycles. They do. They do that for a reason. I won't get into the details of it, but I was off to the left hand side. I got onto the straightaway and I was transitioning over to get ready for the right hand turn that was coming up.

Speaker 2: 00:36:55 So as I transitioned over the center of the bike, I glanced down, I'm doing 95 miles an hour. Perfect. I and I, and I know that that's too fast for the next curve. I don't want to be going over a hundred miles an hour on the street. They take you to jail if you do that. Yes. So so, so I slowed down to 85 miles an hour. Perfect. And then I made sure that I was positioned where I wanted to be positioned. Now a minute ago we talked about that survival reactions restaurant. A lot of motorcycle riders go out and they ride just to just to be up there going, Ooh, that scared the shit out of me. That was fun. No. Instead I positioned myself a foot off the white line and I try to maintain that distance from the white line all the way around the curve. And that's the adrenaline for me.

Speaker 2: 00:37:46 This exact perfection. I want my front wheel to be there. There, there, there, there. I know where I want my front wheel to be. No matter what. I'm going to try and make my front wheel be there at 85 miles an hour instead of, and I knew that I was going to accelerate through the curve. So I'd come out, go on about 195 a hundred miles an hour and I would slow down after that. But that's not what happened there, so I get myself positioned. My head is over my right wrist and I'm looking up ahead and I positioned, I know where I am on the hotline, I'm a foot from the white line, which is the right hand side of the road and I'm looking ahead and I'm seeing how the shadows are casting, you know on the on the road and I'm like, okay, I know this term about where that white spot is when I'm with that, there were the sun's hitting on the road right there.

Speaker 2: 00:38:40 That's where I'm going to turn right. That's where I'm going to initiate my turn and roll on the throttle, picked my turning point, everything's great. Take a nice deep breath and all of a sudden and I kid you not, I'm going to turn sideways to show you dear. I was a deer. I it felt like it was about that big and it was, it was less than a foot in front of my face. Wow. All I saw was the eye. Right? Like I caught, I caught that I, this deer was going completely perpendicular, 90 degrees. To me, it hit right in front of my right hand. If you can picture a motorcycle looking to side's view of a motorcycle when it died because he died. I felt it's two things happen. One, it hit straight head on like like at that 93 point, but where it hit was basically the nine o'clock point on the front wheel, right?

Speaker 2: 00:39:47 It's when it died. It's mass collapsed into my motorcycle, like punching it from the side right at that critical point right at the, the, the, the, the, they call it a triple t where the the handlebars and the sports front suspension. Everything connects right there. I felt the INSTA. Now at this point there's two stories. There's the story of what I perceived and it's the story of what physically happened. Okay? We're going to go with the first part first. What I physically perceived, this is literally what happened according to me, according to my perspective, deer, I, I felt this neck crinkle around my, around my right hand, so I felt crack, crack, crack. I felt the crack. I felt the deer. I felt the deer die. I felt the warm body wrapped around my leg. Kinda like a, it felt like Jello wrapping around your lineage.

Speaker 2: 00:40:55 Like you're falling in Jello, like like a hug. I instantly thought, Huh? That would have worked on the ice planet. Hoth I'm sorry, let me go back. I apologize dear I, Oh shit. I have to, I have to keep looking at the white line. White light, white light, white line. Then I felt the neck break Whiteline white line. Then I felt that I felt the body warmth. White Line, Huh? Ice Planet hoth and for those that might, no, I'm thinking about a movie called the empire strikes back where Han solo goes and finds Luke on the frozen ice planet. Hoth and Luke is injured and almost about to freeze to death and in order to survive the night they cut open a Tauntaun and climb inside his body. Then survived. You remember that? And the, I think it was the nineties it might've been the 80 you don't remember that. Ever saw the empire strikes back.

Speaker 2: 00:41:55 Do you, have you seen star wars? Never. Not One single one. I've seen bits and pieces of, I mean I guess you can't avoid it in life, but never actually sat down and watched it. I'm shocked that they're just listening. I'm sitting here with my mouth is a gate. Okay, we'll there's a c and there's a famous scene in that movie and everybody has seen it with know what I'm talking about. And for some reason in that moment I flashed there. So I felt, I felt the body, I felt that warmth and I went there and I had that conversation. Huh. In my mind I literally had this conversation that would work. Yeah. I would survive if I climbed in that on the ice plant. Yeah. Okay. Even though it was a warm summer day, still felt warm to me and it was weird and it triggered this thought.

Speaker 2: 00:42:46 Okay. Quite light. And at this point I was out of the Oh shit. Like I didn't when I said, Oh shit dear I earlier it wasn't, it was, it was, oh shit, I'm going to die. Right. White wine, white line, white line, Whiteline white line, the white line, k body warmth. Then I saw an Antler, like an antler flew from the right corner to the left corner of my vision. It was slowly flying up there and I thought, Huh, if that gets in my front wheel, I will crash. I should catch that. I should stop that. So I let go on my left hand. I reach up and I gently simply grab the antler on, on, on, on the, on the stalk of the antler and I think, I think I don't want to see the gross decapitated head of this deer, so I'm going to hold it down low. So I held it down low and I lifted my head a little bit so that I could keep staring at the white line. White Line, the white line, white line, white line. Holy Shit. I didn't crash. I got around the turn and I didn't crash. So that's what I saw. Yeah, a Swig of water there.

Speaker 2: 00:44:03 Then I went to throw the deer head away and what it was was part of my motorcycle. It was the whole front fairing of my motorcycle. The deer hit so hard that it cracked and broke a one eighth inch piece of cast aluminum and it caused the whole ferring mirrors. So I thought it was an Antler, but what it was was my mirror to fly up and it started to fall. Now here's the thing, let's be real. What if I did decapitate the deer? There's no way the head would have ended up in the front wheel. No, probably not. But, but that big part of my motorcycle, the mirrors, the front headlight, my speedometer and the computer that's all attached to the motorcycle by a thick cable. So if that would have fallen off, that cable would have kept it sitting right there and it probably would have caused me to crap. Yeah.

Speaker 2: 00:45:04 So I, I get stopped. I freak out, I jump up and down and scream. I didn't often crash about for about 10 minutes. Um, some other stuff happened, but a few minutes later I ended up with, my eye is back in the day. Oh, the other thing I did a lot, two or three days later as a bought a Gopro. So I didn't have a Gopro, but I did have my iPhone at the time, so I went around, I went back to the crash site, but I didn't crash. Right. The two wheels, let me rephrase. I was going to say something. That's not true. It was going to say the two wheels never left the ground. I'll tell you why that's not true in a second, but the motorcycle never hit the ground, but in that way, okay, so I go back and I start investigating what really happened.

Speaker 2: 00:45:54 Here's what really happened, dear I the deer hit and died and at at the nine o'clock position on the, on the front wheel. Okay. As soon as it did that, it caused the front wheel to turn. Like if you steered to the right going really slow, it turned all the way to the steering stop. Wow. Again, I can explain on physics, like if you're, if you're on a motorcycle, what I'm about to explain as the tank slapper. So imagine sitting on a motorcycle and you grab a handlebar and you pull the right handle bar all the way back as far as you can. There's a stop physical stop that's supposed to prevent it from actually hitting the tank. But then you take your other hand, your left hand, and you grabbed the left handlebar and you and you turn it all the way. The other way to that, same to the searing stop steering stop on the other side.

Speaker 2: 00:46:52 So now what happens? What happened was, this is how this happens. The deer hit the front wheel turned completely perpendicular almost because of that, the motorcycle couldn't do what it's supposed to do. That's also how you initiate a turn is turning the front wheel, but bang, it turns all the way. The motorcycle bucks it jumps. I flew 13 feet straight and six feet to the left and I landed about how about six eight inches from the yellow line. Wow. How do I know I did that tracks? Because the where the deer hit, it caused the front wheel to turn and that caused that rubber for that little moment to scuff on the road. So there was this little patch where the pavement was scrubbed, kind of white clean. Then I flew and I landed. Now when I landed, the front wheel was pointing to the right. Have you ever seen a shopping cart? Yeah, sure. Right. You know the front wheels on a shopping cart, how you pull it backwards in the front wheel, spins around or you push it forward. So the front of a motorcycle is designed like that. Okay. It's designed so that the front wheel wants to point forward all the time. Okay. So worst thing you can do on a motorcycle is put a rider on it. I can show youtube videos, I'm sorry, I'm getting drive through here. Dry Mouth and grab another bit of water. Sure.

Speaker 2: 00:48:26 I can show you some youtube videos of racing motorcycles where they have a car. There's the motorcycle rider that crashes the motorcycle and once the motorcycle rider falls off and he's tumbling along, the motorcycle writes itself and just go straight. Right? Good. So the reason that works is this caster effect that I'm describing, the front wheel, when it hits the ground, it wants to point straight. So it starts to correct, but the distance that it goes causes it to overcorrect and that generates this tank slapper situation. And, and what that causes to happen is that front wheel goes from all the way right to all the way left almost instantaneously. And that causes the motorcycle, the buck again, bounce off the ground and come back down and it tries to correct to get 10 bouncing in. I did six tank slappers based on the tracks, which I have photos of where the, where the, it's a very distinct weird marked on the road where you see a tank slapper and I've seen many of them because again, teaching newbies.

Speaker 2: 00:49:41 So I've seen a lot of tracks, a lot of little weird crashes and all that stuff. Uh, so I did half a dozen tank slappers now think about this for a second. This is very important is the, this is the piece where like, what was I doing when that was happening? That was when I was feeling the deer's body wrap around me thinking about the ice planet Hoff and thinking about, oh look, there's an antler. I should stop that antler. That's when that was, that was happening and I was thinking about the white line, so the important stuff. Don't let the deer head get in the in the front. We'll stay focused on my goals. That was the important thing that was happening in my mind. What was not being processed, what was not happening in my mind, my hand, my hand started doing this and at some point I let go of my left hand.

Speaker 2: 00:50:36 My right hand is still bouncing back and forth with that tank slapper happening and I'm catching my front fairing right. I didn't think about any of that. I didn't worry about anything. I was literally connect to everything. It's like I knew everything and I knew the only thing that mattered was that white line staying focused on my next goal, staying soup, not, not getting home, not kissing my girlfriend the next time, not paying the mortgage, not worrying about the next customer. Running about this next goal with that intense focus caused my brain to drop into that super deep state of flow and my brain controlled the information that came to my consciousness. What didn't come to my consciousness. I didn't black out. This isn't a ta, this is not a story of I went dark and then I came to and I survived. No, I can tell you exactly what it just did tell you exactly what happened.

Speaker 2: 00:51:43 So once I read the book, the rise of Superman and it outlines, and then I went and read some of the research papers that he notes in the books and read the studies about how they tested these brains and the way they tested the monks. The kids play in video games, the drug addicts, the people with colorblindness. There's all this research and development out there that justifies and explains how this happens in your brain, what's going on in your body and in your brain when you're in the state. And now I teach people how to do that.

Speaker 2: 00:52:22 That's good. So there is a beer story. Sure. So there's actually, if you, if you, if you go back, if you, those of you that just listened, I pull five key lessons out of there. One of them is awareness. Think do not react. So remember that survival reaction threshold that I talked about at some point I decided to back off of 95 down to 85 that was me moving further away from my survival reaction threshold. Okay? Right. If it was cloudy outside, if it was raining, if I had old tires versus new tires, everything, whether I fought with my girlfriend the day before, whether I get eight hours sleep, whether I had a good breakfast, whether I'd had enough water or not. Everything contributes to where you are operating in relation to your reaction threshold at any moment. So when you sit down to write some copy in that email or you sit down to work on that business plan, whatever it is, knowing where you're operating in the right thing to do, where it based on where you're operating is vital awareness, awareness, awareness.

Speaker 2: 00:53:45 So there's like five lessons in there about business that you can pull out a story. Anyway, so it sounds like to me is your, your brain just kind of went into its own mode based on all your training and experience and everything that you've kind of built up into that point in life and your brain just took over for you. Or at least you consciously, you weren't able to think about what was happening and you just were defaulting to your training. Here's, here's, here's how, here's what gets explained in the book the rise of Superman. Okay. Big overarching description. If you think about the greats, Michael Jordan, tiger woods plan at the top of his game. Um, Leonardo Davinci, uh, you know, on the chat was, is he the one that did assisting chapel and all the sculpture, whatever, artists, all these, we go, we go see rock concerts and we go see UFC fights.

Speaker 2: 00:54:46 We go to those things because what we are witnessing is people dropping into the deepest state of flow that they can and performing at their highest level in that moment. What's really happening in the brain. So the physical body, it could be somebody sitting down and writing their book or it could be, you know, Conor Mcgregor hoping somebody ass the physical isn't what we're talking about. It's the mental that I'm talking about and what is physically happening. They used to think literally 15 to 17 years ago, they used to think that the greats, their brain was operating really, really fast. Okay. But that's not the case. What the research showed with the Fmr rise and a new brain scanning technologies that got developed over the last 10 15 years is what's really happening is your brain is shutting down. Oh, let's talk about it. Yes. When that deer hit, when that deer jumped out, so, so before the deer jumped out, I was already in a state of flow.

Speaker 2: 00:55:55 Okay. What's a symptom of the state of flow? What's a symptom of being in the zone? One symptom is time distortion. I described it really well. I just took about 30 minutes to describe something that happened in three seconds. So to me in that moment, time slowed way down how well the part of my brain that keeps track of a second, it's not needed if I'm about to die. Right? So that part of your brain shuts down. That feeling of being connected to the deer, that feeling of being connected to the shadows. I described it before the deer hit. I was connected to the shadows already. I was connected to my environment deeply. That feeling of, of, of the feeling of not knowing the difference between me and my hand and my water bottle. I'm touching my water bottle right now. Like I can feel that difference right now.

Speaker 2: 00:56:59 If I were in a deep enough state of flow, there would be no difference. It would be me in this water bottle or one. Right? That sense of self shut down. What does that allow to happen? Your, your ener the energy that normally is running these different parts of your brain, another part of your brain that goes away is ego because you're not worried about what somebody thinks when you're killing it, when your life is in danger. Right? Right. Um, different parts of your brain gets shut down and the energy that normally goes there, then energy is used. Taking this, this, the information that you learned 10 years ago, that thing that Johnny said last week on that one phone call and, and the way that you know that, you know, I don't know, you're not supposed to, you're not supposed to grab the brake in the middle of a tank.

Speaker 2: 00:57:52 Slapper right? All of these different Owens stay focused on your goal. Stay on the white line. All these different disparagement pieces are much easier. Lee accessed because the stuff in the middle, the ego sense of time, sense of self, all that stuff is just shut down. So your brain is able to access all that previously forgotten information maybe and put it in and deliver on it. Does that makes sense? That's literally what's happening. What are some techniques or training or different things that we can use? I know you got a whole thing on a boat. Is there one or two things you can, you can share? Um, I'm actually working on right now a flow launch checklist. I've, I've been scared. I'm going to be honest with you. I've been afraid to just let this, let this information out. And I think if you go look at everybody, everybody out there teaching anything about flow.

Speaker 2: 00:58:57 So I've done a lot of research and I've compared myself to everybody and I think I'm the best because of a couple things. We won't go into the details now, but there's two things that I do that I think that are the best that make me different and better than anybody on the planet, um, at teaching people how to use flow. But I've been afraid to say, here's how you do it. Because I had an interview kind of like this one time, and the person that I was interviewing with, he had a pretty big group of sales professionals and he wanted me to come in and just teach a bunch. So I went in and I taught for about three or four hours about how to do this, right. About a month. I know about six months later, there's a guy that reached out to me is like, clay, can we talk?

Speaker 2: 00:59:43 No idea who he was. It turns out he was in that group and he and he and I'm like, yeah, sure. We don't talk about, and he said, well, I went into flow and I couldn't come out. I'm like, what? Yeah, let's talk. It turns out he and a buddy had went and did and done some research and they purposely hack themselves into flow to build a business idea to work on their business. Three weeks, three weeks of sleeping less than four out of every 24 hours. Mostly more like two out of every 24 hours. Three weeks of maybe eating one meal a day, three weeks of being dehydrated because they weren't drinking water. Right. Right. Their families, these were like 20 early twenties guys or the twenties kids. Right. They disappeared. Their families thought they, they got addicted to meth or something and we're gone.

Speaker 2: 01:00:40 They literally called the cops. Wow. They were, they were in flow for three, three and a half weeks because, because they didn't do the one thing that I focus on first and foremost, recovery, setting a timer, respecting the timer, building a recovery process, that is the most important part period. Because if you don't do that, you will not be eager to get back in a state of flow. It's a whole lot of, there's a whole lot information there. So I'm afraid, oh and it took him three and a half months or four months. It took him four months to recover. It took him like, it took him like two weeks of being almost catatonic. Like he had a buddy that sells mushrooms and takes people on trips and, and he went and he crashed on that guy's couch for two weeks and that guy took care of him.

Speaker 2: 01:01:37 Cause we're talking about the same thing, cocaine and all the, all the, uh, hallucinogenic drugs and stuff, all that stuff. All it does is released these chemicals in your brain that I teach people how to do in three months through simple practices of meditation, journaling and gratitude. So what do I have? What am I a tips? Download the three habits. Start Building and growing the three habits, meditation, journaling and gratitude. There's a free opt in. I have this little Ebook, get it, live it, live it, live it, live it. Three habits. I will link to it in the show notes everybody. So don't worry about trying to figure it, figure it out. And I'm also working on, I'm also working on that flow launch checklist. Okay. I'm afraid, I'm afraid of releasing that. It's powerful. Um, my, my favorite client, and I know you're not supposed to say that, but the reason I call her my favorite client is because she is an accountant and she looks at numbers and uses numbers and is very good at measuring things.

Speaker 2: 01:02:40 You and me, uh, our lifestyle, our businesses, we're not focused on every little number. We need to be looking at some numbers, but we're more creative, right? We're more, and most of the people I work with are like that. So it's hard to measure productivity and us, right? But for an accountant, she can measure productivity. And I'm going to tell you what she did and how she did it. Here's a quick story and in this story is the flow launch checklist. And I don't have the PDF. I don't have the book yet. It's coming. I'm working on it right now actually today. I think I've got somebody working on the actual pdf. Um, she, her results, actually I'll tell, I'll tell you, was the story she'd been dreading working on this one client's books. She did not want to sit down and work on this guy's books because they're complicated.

Speaker 2: 01:03:37 Previously she knew that it usually took her for this client about an hour to do two months of books. So she hated it because she normally was a lot faster and a lot better in a lot more efficient than that. But his stuff is really complicated. I don't she, I don't know what that looks like, so don't ask. But she expected her normal was about two months in an hour. So, so here's the process. Step one, set a timer. Don't start the timer yet. Set a timer. My suggestion, five zero minutes, maybe your magic number is going to be 30 maybe you're in magic number's going to be 90 you got to test it. And that happens to be one of my strong suits is I help people test stuff. I teach people how to test and improve your process. Set a timer, set a goal. This is a skill.

Speaker 2: 01:04:33 Earlier we were talking about skills and learning new things. Setting a goal for the next work session. This goal has to be a couple things. It has to be 100% guarantee confident that you will accomplish this goal in the next hour. Okay? Oh I'm sorry. Before all this, obviously remove all distractions. No, no notification. Pop up ups. You're working in a place where your kids are not going to come. Bug, you know, distractions. Set a timer, set a goal. This goal has certain requirements. Basically the net work session, what are you going to get done? Her goal was, I'm going to finish three months in the next work session of this guy's books to her. So, so step three, write that goal down. Step four, ask why and what. I mean, you invest five to 10 minutes writing on a piece of paper under the goal. Why that goal is really important for you to do in the next hour.

Speaker 2: 01:05:47 Why is it vital that this goal must get done life and death better if, if, if you've got to change the diaper on your kid or their penis is going to fall off, you're going to change the diaper on your kid in the next hour, right? So this is, it's this deep embodiment of how important accomplishing that goal is. And you're right, and why, if you, if you guys are watching video behind me as a picture of Lake Como in Italy, I've got a goal. I want to be there in the fall. I'm watching this every damn day of my life just about reminding me of it, right? That's why I'm, that's why I'm now over time and I'm staying here with you Tyson, because dammit, I want to be there. It's important and I'm in a state of flow. I put myself in a state of flow. I'm loving this. So step one, set a timer, sip to establish a goal. We'll no distractions. Set a timer, set the goal appropriately. Follow the guidelines for setting the goal. Explain to yourself in intimate detail why it is so important. Okay, the last step before you start work, start the timer.

Speaker 2: 01:07:01 Casey forgot to start the timer. She forgot to start her timer. So she started working. I don't mousing clicking. I don't know what she's doing right, but she's doing this guy's books. She past the three month part and didn't stop. She kept going. She passed four months, kept going, cause she's in the state of flow. She's just zooming, right? Boom, boom, boom, boom. Five months, boom, boom, boom. Six months done. She started to start month seven and she thought, wait, I forgot to set the timer. Panicked a little bit. She's like, Oh God, I must to work two hours just now. This is not healthy. So when we talk about recovery, every every work session has a launch and a landing and then that landing, you do things like get up and move around, move your risks, change the focal point of your eyes. It depends on what you're doing, but you have to build the landing routine. So she pushes back and she's, she kind of gets away from the work she's doing and she looks at the clock 30 minutes. Wow. Weiss as much work in half the time. Wow. That's my mic drop right there.

Speaker 1: 01:08:23 That just goes to show how much more we are capable of than we think

Speaker 2: 01:08:27 we are. Insane. I couldn't believe it. That's what told me that. And I was just like you, I'm going to use that in every interview from Allen. So real quick, go ahead and build the, build the foundation with the three habits and, and people like meditation. Why I ain't got time to go into it. I'll poke in the eye later. Bottom line poking. I'll poke you in the eye later and explain why meditation is so important. This is coming from a nuclear reactor operator in Intel engineer. I'm an engineer. I'm a sport bike motorcycle riding, self maintenance, doing technical right. Wrench turning. I know what I'm talking about from a, from uh, uh, put my hands on it and touch it. Right. Tangible was perspective. There is nothing more important than you growing the strength in your brain. And that means meditation, Meditation, hand writing, a journal, writing in a journal and specifically on those two topics, practicing gratitude is the, that's the path. Yes. And then we get into the 12 weeks.

Speaker 1: 01:09:37 Absolutely. Yeah. I mean right here I have the, I mean it's stuff journals and it's up. It's right here. All Day. Every day. Yeah. There's no joke. Yeah. I used to, I used to like I, I know you're coming from, I, I I get that. Like, listen, this isn't for me. I'm not that Kinda guy. Uh, you know, and I gave it a try it, it's just amazing the, the, the things you can unlock in your mind and your abilities, like we talked about so much here, being able to recognize these things, being self aware of finding these different things. This is the things where it starts being grateful that you woke up this morning and all these different names thing. Go ahead, clay.

Speaker 2: 01:10:14 I got, I got one more. Oh, for reason, Casey, Casey's my favorite client. Sure. For whatever reason, and this has happened occasionally. I would say one in ten one in 15 of my clients when I meet him and we have this conversation, a couple of conversations and they just, they're sold. They're like, yes, I'm going to do this clay, and she started doing it. I kid you not six clients the next week. Wow. Today I actually, no, it's not today. A month ago. She told me that since, since we started working together, which was less than a year ago to today, her businesses up 666% that's amazing. This woman has bought buildings in her town. Wow. Does she thought she was going to buy within five years. She's bought them within the last six months of working with me. Why? She had knowledge. Okay. Now she's a business owner and she had a lot of knowledge that I'm not saying I gave her. Sure. What you just said though, unlocking that knowledge and unleashing that knowledge, that meditation, journaling, gratitude specifically. I'm very proud of the way I teach people to do it, so it's magic. I can, I don't what else to tell you. It's just freaking magic man.

Speaker 1: 01:11:41 I love it. I want to hear more about it and if people want to learn more about that with you, what's your up to? Where's the best place for people to get ahold of you?

Speaker 2: 01:11:51 Facebook. Linkedin. My website. Yeah. Facebook, linkedin and my website. And I am about to launch my next, get it done in flow training. We talked about it a little while ago, probably mid May, 2019. For those of you that are listening in two years, mid May, 2019 is when hopefully this podcast is going to come out. That's also about the time that my next get it done in flow mastermind. Just going to start. Don't worry, I'm not one of these guys. It's like, Oh, you gotta buy it now. It's never going to happen again. No, it's going to happen again. Sure. Um, I, I described that I'm afraid to just put a checklist out there because of hurting people and I'm not kidding, like hurting people, hurting people's relationships, diet, ergonomics. There's a lot of ways that that this state of flow thing can hurt you. Um, I'm afraid of that. So I'm also afraid of the online course so I'm probably never going to sell an online course that doesn't involve a lot of interaction with me for this training. So as I deliver it in a mastermind training format, so just come hookup, come connect with me on Facebook and Linkedin or my website and yeah we can talk. That's the way, that's the way to go about it.

Speaker 1: 01:13:15 We will link to all those in the show notes and you guys can use this gray red over, get the resources, the three habits and all these other things we were talking about here today. We'll, we'll link, make sure we link all that, get everybody connected. If you're interested in learning more about flow, I am cause I would like to be able to get some Ninja skills like you and a motorcycle. Just amazing. But I know, I know we all, I know we default to our training and we've got to keep our training up there. We're not going to rise to our expectations. And this is great stuff. One last thing, I know we're a little bit over time on a social chameleon show. We like to have a weekly challenge to kind of, you know, empower our listeners to, to to get to next level, work on that 1% work on these different things. I would like to give you the opportunity to issue this week's challenge,

Speaker 2: 01:14:07 the most powerful gratitude practice that I can offer. It's also the simplest and it's going to be something that one in ten one in 20 are going to probably do, but what I'm about to share will change. This is what changed Casey's life. This is the practice that literally blew her up and, and when I, I, the reason I'm grabbing her is because she's my favorite client. She's the one that I can then I can grab her numbers and I can say, these are the numbers that she's reported. I'm not, she's not alone. Dozens and dozens and dozens at this point of people have reported similar things. It's just I can't give you the specifics and the scale and the numbers of a 10 minute gratitude practice. What does it look like? Step one, you step into your workplace. You sit down at your desk, or maybe you do this as you're going to bed at night, you set a timer for one minute, maybe two minutes.

Speaker 2: 01:15:12 You Go, oh, I'm sorry. You need a journal and a pen and a piece of paper and a pen. So you, you set that timer for one or two minutes and you literally use your eyes and you look around where you're at. You look around your environment and you start labeling and you start listing things on a piece of paper. A frisbee that, that piece of my motorcycle that broke off, that I've kept from the deer hill. It's right there. That light, that hanger, my computer, my water bottle, this, this 20 pound Kettle Bell, my journal. You make a list of things that you are thankful and, and each time there's a moment where you're like, Ooh, I'm thankful for that. Ooh, I'm thankful for that. Ooh, I'm thankful for that. There's this little hits of gratitude for all the, why am I thankful for that?

Speaker 2: 01:16:03 Yup. Okay. I can write that. Why am I thankful for that? I can write that two minutes. Then set your timer for somewhere between five and 10 minutes. Okay, pick one of those items, one of those items. Circle it. Start the timer. Why am I grateful for that water bottle? Exercise your gratitude. Think about a part of your brand as a part of your brain that is, that is small right now. I promise it's small relative to I don't care who you are fricking Dalai Lama wants his bigger, okay? You want to make it bigger. Just like you want to make a muscle bigger, you're going to exercise that part of your brain. Here's how. Why am I thankful for that water bottle and you are going to write for five minutes at least explaining why you are grateful for whatever that one thing you circled is every day, same time. Find a good time that works for you. Keep testing different times until you find that good time that works for you and do that. Here's how you know if you've gone far enough. I'm holding my journal out so people could see it, and I'm writing and I feel like I'm riding and you're explaining why. Why am I grateful for that water bottle? I'm grateful for that water bottle because it's been with me all these places because it brings me, well, whatever the reason, whatever train of thought, you go down explaining why you're thankful for it. When your tears are dripping onto the page, you win.

Speaker 2: 01:17:42 That's when you're grateful enough. That's my challenge. And make yourself cry for the next seven days. Being grateful for something. That's it.

Speaker 1: 01:17:53 You know, be be that one on a 20 like he said, be that guy that these are the things that separate you from the patent. He said a separate you from everybody else that are going to have, you're going to have a better life and you're gonna be to share that with people around you.

Speaker 2: 01:18:08 That's the things that you're gonna buff and get all buff and buff right now. But you know,

Speaker 1: 01:18:12 that's the things that matter. Thank you very much. I know we're a bit over time. Thank you so much for all your wisdom. Your great stories people. Um, if you want to connect with him, you want to learn more, I will link everything. Like I said in the show notes. Thank you very much.

Speaker 2: 01:18:27 Thank you Tyson. This has been awesome. I appreciate it. This has been fun. I'm stoked that we're in the same neighborhoods sorta and I'm looking forward to seeing and meeting you man.

Speaker 1: 01:18:37 Thank you so much. All right. What a great interview with clay. So much there to we could continuously unpacking. We could have gone an Ana. I think we'll have to have him on a second time. He's got so much knowledge. We're really, we're really all my things. I wanted to touch on a lot of great information here. I really hope you guys learned something from this. Um, and as always, you know, we got our, our giveaways here. If you listen to this and may check it out, go to the social community that showed slash pick me. We're always looking for new innovative products, solutions, whatever it is to help improve your life, make your life easier or more effective and more efficient. Whatever it is. We're always out there looking for stuff. You know, something or you know someone or you have something you'd like us to, to check out a review and may possibly get away.

Speaker 1: 01:19:16 Let us know. If not, if you're looking for something to discover, maybe you haven't, haven't thought of or whatever it is, check out what we've got going on this month at the social community that show stash. Pick me and enter your chance to win one of these great, amazing prizes we give away. And um, if you, if you're looking for more of this type of thing, uh, Clay's got some trainings coming up if you're listening to this. And in the beginning of May, um, he has a flow training mastermind starts May 10th, uh, two x to outperform output in half the time safely. Uh, I'll have all that in the show notes and social community.show/clay-green for the information and details on that. If you listen to this later on, um, I'll, I'll try and continuously update the information to the latest event. Uh, and as well, he's, um, hosting a retreat in Sedona here in Arizona.

Speaker 1: 01:20:05 It's up north, beautiful, beautiful place. If you haven't seen it, Google some images of donor amazing, this beautiful red rocks and all this different things. Um, if you're not in the area here in Phoenix area or you'd like to come down, will be traveling for business here. Check out the show notes for the link. So at this time of recording and do not have the exact date but it's coming up. It's going to be a retreat, kind of like sleep sleepover thing with 10 to 20 entrepreneurs getting it done in house for four nights or three days of intense work and play all centered and focused around this, this concept and and state of flow, getting into flow, getting out of flow. And what clay really hammers down is, is the safety of it. Um, and it's, you can really get into into some burnout type situations and everybody over do it.

Speaker 1: 01:20:46 Clay has spent a lot of time mastering this. If you're interested in any of these two things, head over to the search committee that I show slash play that screen. Scroll down there. I look for the details of these events. Click through that, check it out, see what you can do to get there, get to these events. Um, and if you're looking for, you know, sharing this, this, this concept and these things that other people, please share at least two other people. You know, the best way to support the show, sharing with other people, spreading this knowledge if you like. But we had one on here and like, what's going on? Leave a lag or leave a review. Let us know how we're doing. Uh, you know, subscribe. If, um, you'd like to follow us on social media all week long. You can foster social community show on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter as well as we have this on youtube and all the favorite podcasts that platforms out there for past episodes and links to everything we talked about here today. You can visit social community, that Shell, and until next time, keep learning, finding your state of flow growing and transforming into the person you want to become.


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